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zorais
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Hot Dice!

Post by zorais »

Who has the best dice? Who is the unluckiest roller? I have the results =)
I have extracted '32k' randoms from my logs going back 2 years, and found out who has the best and the worst luck. Yllaena has the best rolls by far, with three VERY distant runner ups, Sarrenna, Moorl, and Gringo. When it comes to the worst rolls, the 'competition' is closer. Sollas has the worst dice, but has to work hard at crappy rolls to keep the lead on Anas, Tjay and Gindaas. I would rank Gindaas as the second worst roller.

These rankings take all of the information from the logs into account (the number of randoms counted relative to the average roll ranking), and are somewhat subjective. The plain results require a grain of salt. I'll post the top and bottom 10, but be careful when reading it. You have to consider how many randoms are being counted in addition to the average random.

Top 10:

1 Gringo 18012
2 Moorl 17894
3 Sarrenna 17864
4 Yllaena 17417
5 Hamilkar 17407
6 Lyssabeth 17366
7 Somen 17334
8 Trilo 17317
9 Xslia 17295
10 Shayden 17275

Bottom 10:

80 Vissili 14820
81 Sollas 14780
82 Anas 14746
83 Elumar 14712
84 Jeldar 14694
85 Koutarou 14656
86 Huge 14489
87 Tjay 14488
88 Gindaas 14390
89 Stumblelord 13849

As everyone randoms more, their average random will get closer and closer to 16000. The top and bottom 10 will change over time.

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Re: Hot Dice!

Post by zorais »

edit: this was a long list, I posted an updated list, and removed this one.
Last edited by zorais on Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:31 pm, edited 3 times in total.

Eagles
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Re: Hot Dice!

Post by Eagles »

Clarification.....

You said Yllaena has the best rolls by far yet she is fourth in the top 10, and has a rank of 7th in your other data.

What methodologies did you use to calculate it.

Average probably will not give a good number, after all if you rolled 19k every time you would never win when a lot of peopel were randoming.

Out of curiosity could you post the following things.

Percentage of rolls over 30k.

Percentage of rolls over 25k.

Percentage of wins.
Your Kinder Gentler Iksar,
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Re: Hot Dice!

Post by Xslia »

Hey Gringo!!! want to go to vegas?!!

Were the knights rolls so sucky they did not even make the bottom?

zorais
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Re: Hot Dice!

Post by zorais »

Eagles, that might be entertaining. I'll post some 30k and 25k percentages later. However, the percentage of wins isn't possible, because matching the concept of a win to a random is too complicated. I could hack out some formulas that consider this highest rolls in a 30 second period, or in a period of time that does not vary by more than 10 seconds, but that isn't necessarily a win.

My method for ranking people involved weighting a persons rank to their counted randoms. I had 342 randoms from yllaena, the second largest count of randoms, and in all of those yllaena still maintained a high average roll. Gringo and Sarrenna only had 97, and 100 rolls to count. Consider that if your average roll for 20 rolls is 18000, and your later average roll for 200 rolls is 16500, the 18000 average at 20 has very little significance. In that way, yllaena's luck is more impressive than the 6 people who ranked higher because I had more randoms to count.

If I were to graph someones average roll against roll counts, it would look like a depreciating sine wave with a high amplitude at its origin, and a decreasing amplitude that approaches 16000 at its end. That is in effect what I have been relatively describing.

For the top 10, I forgot to mention that I only considered people who I had 90 or more rolls to count (It was late at night when I finished working with excel to get the results, and I was sleepy). 90 was an arbitrary choice. With all things considered, the average roll would get boring with enough rolls from each person. This is only a competition because I only have a limited sample. If everyone had thousands of rolls, the results would be much closer to 16000, still something to compete over, but boring.

rank 1 Rukus - count 40 average 19228
rank 2 Wirtt - count 20 average 18297
rank 3 Gringo - count 97 average 18012
rank 4 Sarrenna - count 100 average 17864
rank 5 Xukanik - count 30 average 17498
rank 6 Felicianna - count 80 average 17488
rank 7 Yllaena - count 342 average 17417

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Re: Hot Dice!

Post by zorais »

The minimum roll count to be ranked was 30
Top 10 for 30k+
1Ribbitribbit
2Xukanik
3Valspar
4Precocious
5Kaneldar
6Felicianna
7Sarrenna
8Pisaster
9Sliggoth
10Goodytoshoes

Bottom 10 for 30k+
100Jaerlyn
101Galeon
102Freakbabydoll
103Huge
104Zielo
105Aubriana
106Talsheyar
107Rodana
108Madadar
109Kivanarri


Top 10 for 25k+
1Valspar
2Ribbitribbit
3Izzn
4Damieean
5Sarrenna
6Sanelyene
7Lyssabeth
8Rukus
9Mandi
10Sliggoth

Bottom 10 for 25k+
100 Galeon
101 Sunkori
102 Brystorm
103 Tjay
104 Leninie
105 Rodana
106 Sued
107 Johpaul
108 Shartie
109 Gindaas

Find your name in the list if you want to see your stats.

The 25k+ percentage will be 21.875% on average. The 30k+ percentage will be 6.25% on average. If your percentage is below those numbers, you have bad luck so far. If it is above, you have good luck.

Aanomine - counted rolls = 127 [average roll 15687 rank 65 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.87% rank 24 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 21.26% rank 60 ]
Anas - counted rolls = 174 [average roll 14746 rank 99 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.02% rank 98 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.69% rank 65 ]
Antibane - counted rolls = 179 [average roll 16100 rank 53 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.03% rank 81 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 18.44% rank 85 ]
Anzen - counted rolls = 215 [average roll 16153 rank 50 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.58% rank 67 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.33% rank 52 ]
Aubriana - counted rolls = 72 [average roll 15479 rank 79 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 2.78% rank 105 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 16.67% rank 94 ]
Babsy - counted rolls = 147 [average roll 15435 rank 82 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.12% rank 54 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 19.73% rank 77 ]
Beerwitch - counted rolls = 6 [average roll 15921 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 16.67% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 16.67% ]
Bigz - counted rolls = 3 [average roll 12218 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 0.00% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 33.33% ]
Brystorm - counted rolls = 128 [average roll 15136 rank 94 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.25% rank 52 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 15.63% rank 102 ]
Calebe - counted rolls = 196 [average roll 16144 rank 51 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.63% rank 43 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 19.39% rank 80 ]
Cellar - counted rolls = 184 [average roll 16163 rank 48 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.98% rank 57 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.28% rank 53 ]
Cinda - counted rolls = 19 [average roll 12377 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 0.00% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 10.53% ]
Cordelone - counted rolls = 46 [average roll 15239 rank 88 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.52% rank 45 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 19.57% rank 78 ]
Crane - counted rolls = 125 [average roll 16772 rank 27 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.60% rank 64 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.80% rank 27 ]
Crystill - counted rolls = 108 [average roll 16872 rank 25 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.41% rank 28 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 26.85% rank 12 ]
Daaw - counted rolls = 92 [average roll 15838 rank 59 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.35% rank 91 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 19.57% rank 79 ]
Damaddar - counted rolls = 176 [average roll 16456 rank 39 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 3.98% rank 99 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.86% rank 36 ]
Damieean - counted rolls = 75 [average roll 15433 rank 83 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.00% rank 21 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 28.00% rank 4 ]
Daneldil - counted rolls = 137 [average roll 16489 rank 36 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.57% rank 44 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 26.28% rank 18 ]
Daqar - counted rolls = 124 [average roll 15440 rank 80 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.45% rank 48 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 25.00% rank 25 ]
Darklion - counted rolls = 210 [average roll 15181 rank 91 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.29% rank 93 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.48% rank 69 ]
Dasmagi - counted rolls = 109 [average roll 16369 rank 43 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.50% rank 69 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.18% rank 72 ]
Deedly - counted rolls = 215 [average roll 16043 rank 55 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.51% rank 46 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.65% rank 28 ]
Dengar - counted rolls = 5 [average roll 17990 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 0.00% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.00% ]
Donglad - counted rolls = 106 [average roll 16244 rank 47 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.66% rank 63 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.58% rank 42 ]
Dreico - counted rolls = 24 [average roll 15579 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 0.00% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.83% ]
Eagles - counted rolls = 138 [average roll 16653 rank 31 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.25% rank 31 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.19% rank 44 ]
Ebeb - counted rolls = 179 [average roll 15635 rank 70 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.59% rank 65 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 18.99% rank 81 ]
Efton - counted rolls = 184 [average roll 15673 rank 67 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.61% rank 26 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 26.63% rank 16 ]
Elinusn - counted rolls = 144 [average roll 15509 rank 77 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.94% rank 36 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.61% rank 41 ]
Elumar - counted rolls = 116 [average roll 14712 rank 100 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.31% rank 92 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 16.38% rank 98 ]
Felicianna - counted rolls = 80 [average roll 17488 rank 5 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 10.00% rank 6 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.75% rank 38 ]
Forgetful - counted rolls = 27 [average roll 16986 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 11.11% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 37.04% ]
Fradie - counted rolls = 77 [average roll 16489 rank 37 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.49% rank 47 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 25.97% rank 20 ]
Freakbabydoll - counted rolls = 59 [average roll 16399 rank 41 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 3.39% rank 102 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.73% rank 39 ]
Fyrmn - counted rolls = 35 [average roll 14474 rank 106 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.71% rank 62 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 17.14% rank 92 ]
Gaerwind - counted rolls = 105 [average roll 15171 rank 92 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.67% rank 40 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.00% rank 74 ]
Gaggrol - counted rolls = 130 [average roll 16786 rank 26 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.38% rank 71 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.85% rank 37 ]
Galamann - counted rolls = 122 [average roll 16468 rank 38 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.74% rank 60 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.59% rank 29 ]
Galeon - counted rolls = 88 [average roll 14988 rank 95 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 3.41% rank 101 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 15.91% rank 100 ]
Gindaas - counted rolls = 157 [average roll 14390 rank 107 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.73% rank 61 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 13.38% rank 109 ]
Gokujin - counted rolls = 138 [average roll 15557 rank 75 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.07% rank 79 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 15.94% rank 99 ]
Goodytoshoes - counted rolls = 96 [average roll 16503 rank 35 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 9.38% rank 10 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 27.08% rank 11 ]
Gringo - counted rolls = 97 [average roll 18012 rank 2 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.15% rank 77 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 25.77% rank 21 ]
Hamilkar - counted rolls = 117 [average roll 17407 rank 7 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.27% rank 94 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 21.37% rank 59 ]
Huge - counted rolls = 163 [average roll 14489 rank 104 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 3.07% rank 103 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 16.56% rank 96 ]
Izzn - counted rolls = 114 [average roll 17120 rank 17 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.89% rank 22 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 28.95% rank 3 ]
Jaaimi - counted rolls = 60 [average roll 15719 rank 64 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.67% rank 41 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.33% rank 43 ]
Jaerlyn - counted rolls = 157 [average roll 15201 rank 90 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 3.82% rank 100 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 19.75% rank 76 ]
Jeldar - counted rolls = 112 [average roll 14694 rank 101 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.14% rank 32 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 21.43% rank 57 ]
Jiniane - counted rolls = 159 [average roll 15968 rank 56 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.81% rank 13 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 18.87% rank 82 ]
Johpaul - counted rolls = 49 [average roll 14968 rank 96 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.08% rank 96 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 14.29% rank 107 ]
Kaeamien - counted rolls = 47 [average roll 16938 rank 24 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.51% rank 17 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 25.53% rank 23 ]
Kaneldar - counted rolls = 86 [average roll 15855 rank 57 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 10.47% rank 5 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.42% rank 31 ]
Kethor - counted rolls = 143 [average roll 15378 rank 86 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.99% rank 34 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.28% rank 71 ]
Khurggan - counted rolls = 114 [average roll 16386 rank 42 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.02% rank 33 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 21.93% rank 56 ]
Kittyara - counted rolls = 68 [average roll 16291 rank 44 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.35% rank 30 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 25.00% rank 26 ]
Kivanarri - counted rolls = 75 [average roll 14915 rank 97 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 1.33% rank 109 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 17.33% rank 91 ]
Kotter - counted rolls = 57 [average roll 14660 rank 102 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.77% rank 14 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 17.54% rank 89 ]
Koutarou - counted rolls = 159 [average roll 14656 rank 103 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.40% rank 90 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 17.61% rank 88 ]
Krunchi - counted rolls = 187 [average roll 15202 rank 89 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.35% rank 72 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 21.39% rank 58 ]
Ktasi - counted rolls = 80 [average roll 17364 rank 9 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.00% rank 82 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.50% rank 48 ]
Leanya - counted rolls = 150 [average roll 17097 rank 18 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.67% rank 16 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.00% rank 35 ]
Leninie - counted rolls = 59 [average roll 17121 rank 16 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.47% rank 18 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 15.25% rank 104 ]
Luthair - counted rolls = 214 [average roll 15410 rank 85 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.21% rank 95 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.56% rank 67 ]
Lyssabeth - counted rolls = 176 [average roll 17366 rank 8 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.39% rank 29 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 27.84% rank 7 ]
Lytol - counted rolls = 193 [average roll 15851 rank 58 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.18% rank 76 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.80% rank 47 ]
Madadar - counted rolls = 54 [average roll 15769 rank 62 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 1.85% rank 108 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 18.52% rank 84 ]
Mandi - counted rolls = 62 [average roll 16991 rank 22 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.06% rank 19 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 27.42% rank 9 ]
Marcellox - counted rolls = 152 [average roll 15140 rank 93 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.89% rank 23 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.37% rank 49 ]
Matthius - counted rolls = 12 [average roll 16608 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.33% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 33.33% ]
Mezzlar - counted rolls = 323 [average roll 16590 rank 34 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.81% rank 38 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.12% rank 73 ]
Micaiah - counted rolls = 110 [average roll 16744 rank 29 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.36% rank 51 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 25.45% rank 24 ]
Momaviolet - counted rolls = 179 [average roll 15413 rank 84 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.59% rank 66 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.91% rank 46 ]
Morbous - counted rolls = 293 [average roll 15497 rank 78 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.46% rank 70 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 17.41% rank 90 ]
Nevus - counted rolls = 278 [average roll 15645 rank 69 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.68% rank 89 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.50% rank 68 ]
Pisaster - counted rolls = 188 [average roll 16274 rank 45 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 9.57% rank 8 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.47% rank 30 ]
Precocious - counted rolls = 80 [average roll 16638 rank 32 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 11.25% rank 4 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 26.25% rank 19 ]
Qaidya - counted rolls = 212 [average roll 15511 rank 76 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.72% rank 87 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 16.51% rank 97 ]
Rago - counted rolls = 236 [average roll 16155 rank 49 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.78% rank 39 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 18.64% rank 83 ]
Railmen - counted rolls = 108 [average roll 16684 rank 30 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 9.26% rank 12 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 26.85% rank 13 ]
Razzull - counted rolls = 39 [average roll 15626 rank 71 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.13% rank 78 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.08% rank 45 ]
Ribbitribbit - counted rolls = 131 [average roll 17014 rank 21 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 14.50% rank 1 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 29.77% rank 2 ]
Rodana - counted rolls = 41 [average roll 17015 rank 20 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 2.44% rank 107 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 14.63% rank 105 ]
Rukus - counted rolls = 40 [average roll 19228 rank 1 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.00% rank 83 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 27.50% rank 8 ]
Sanelyene - counted rolls = 186 [average roll 17123 rank 15 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.06% rank 20 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 27.96% rank 6 ]
Sarellen - counted rolls = 296 [average roll 15612 rank 73 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.73% rank 86 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.61% rank 66 ]
Sarrenna - counted rolls = 100 [average roll 17864 rank 3 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 10.00% rank 7 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 28.00% rank 5 ]
Seratta - counted rolls = 81 [average roll 16404 rank 40 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.17% rank 53 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.99% rank 62 ]
Serogy - counted rolls = 213 [average roll 15787 rank 61 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.10% rank 55 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 21.13% rank 61 ]
Shartie - counted rolls = 49 [average roll 13301 rank 109 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.08% rank 97 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 14.29% rank 108 ]
Shayden - counted rolls = 129 [average roll 17275 rank 13 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.98% rank 35 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.03% rank 34 ]
Silver - counted rolls = 85 [average roll 15653 rank 68 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.71% rank 88 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.35% rank 50 ]
Sissee - counted rolls = 191 [average roll 15594 rank 74 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.24% rank 75 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.94% rank 63 ]
Sliggoth - counted rolls = 147 [average roll 16606 rank 33 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 9.52% rank 9 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 27.21% rank 10 ]
Sollas - counted rolls = 245 [average roll 14780 rank 98 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.31% rank 74 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 17.14% rank 93 ]
Somen - counted rolls = 90 [average roll 17334 rank 10 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.78% rank 25 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 25.56% rank 22 ]
Stomponyourface - counted rolls = 131 [average roll 16259 rank 46 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.87% rank 37 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 23.66% rank 40 ]
Stumblelord - counted rolls = 90 [average roll 13849 rank 108 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.67% rank 42 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 16.67% rank 95 ]
Sued - counted rolls = 145 [average roll 15333 rank 87 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.52% rank 68 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 14.48% rank 106 ]
Sunkori - counted rolls = 82 [average roll 15624 rank 72 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.88% rank 85 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 15.85% rank 101 ]
Talsheyar - counted rolls = 38 [average roll 16970 rank 23 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 2.63% rank 106 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 18.42% rank 86 ]
Tjay - counted rolls = 169 [average roll 14488 rank 105 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.33% rank 73 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 15.38% rank 103 ]
Trainmonster - counted rolls = 85 [average roll 16113 rank 52 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.88% rank 58 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.35% rank 51 ]
Trilo - counted rolls = 155 [average roll 17317 rank 11 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.45% rank 49 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 21.94% rank 55 ]
Valspar - counted rolls = 106 [average roll 17265 rank 14 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 11.32% rank 3 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 31.13% rank 1 ]
Varlon - counted rolls = 43 [average roll 15438 rank 81 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 9.30% rank 11 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.93% rank 64 ]
Victorhealer - counted rolls = 170 [average roll 16070 rank 54 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.88% rank 59 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.12% rank 32 ]
Waltor - counted rolls = 8 [average roll 13314 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 12.50% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 12.50% ]
Wanluan - counted rolls = 133 [average roll 15809 rank 60 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.02% rank 56 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.30% rank 70 ]
Wirtt - counted rolls = 20 [average roll 18297 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 15.00% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 35.00% ]
Wishfull - counted rolls = 27 [average roll 17226 not ranked ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 11.11% ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 25.93% ]
Xslia - counted rolls = 194 [average roll 17295 rank 12 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 8.76% rank 15 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 26.80% rank 14 ]
Xukanik - counted rolls = 30 [average roll 17498 rank 4 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 13.33% rank 2 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 26.67% rank 15 ]
Yachtor - counted rolls = 171 [average roll 15753 rank 63 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 6.43% rank 50 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 22.22% rank 54 ]
Yllaena - counted rolls = 342 [average roll 17417 rank 6 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 7.60% rank 27 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 26.61% rank 17 ]
Zephur - counted rolls = 224 [average roll 16759 rank 28 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 4.91% rank 84 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 24.11% rank 33 ]
Zielo - counted rolls = 105 [average roll 17068 rank 19 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 2.86% rank 104 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 20.00% rank 75 ]
Zorais - counted rolls = 435 [average roll 15687 rank 66 ]-[percentage of 30k+ rolls 5.06% rank 80 ]-[percentage of 25k+ rolls 17.93% rank 87 ]

Eagles
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Re: Hot Dice!

Post by Eagles »

Disagree with the weighting and I woudl consider 100 to be a relatively signifigant sample. More is of course better but it will jsut effect the error of margin on the randoms. I think our methodology overweighted the frequency.

The reason I suggested the 30k and 25K is those are MORE likley to win then someone who randomed 18000 or evne 20000 consistently.

For our purposes 16k with a LARGE standard dev woudl be better hten 18k with a small standard Dev.

Damn its been forever since i did statistics... almsot 30 years. Make the T squares and one way anovas stop...
Your Kinder Gentler Iksar,
Eagles

zorais
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Re: Hot Dice!

Post by zorais »

I went ahead and extracted wining rolls from my logs. wins do not mean an item was won, rather the roll was higher than other rolls that were no longer than 30 seconds apart from the previous roll. It's a pretty good measure of wining rolls.

Top 10 winners

1 Damieean
2 Xukanik
3 Felicianna
4 Kittyara
5 Rukus
6 Mandi
7 Ktasi
8 Daneldil
9 Goodytoshoes
10 Kivanarri

Bottom 10 winners

100 Rodana
101 Calebe
102 Damaddar
103 Jaerlyn
104 Sued
105 Huge
106 Babsy
107 Brystorm
108 Shartie
109 Razzull

Aanomine win count 25 win/total rolls 19.69% rank 12
Anas win count 24 win/total rolls 13.79% rank 61
Antibane win count 25 win/total rolls 13.97% rank 58
Anzen win count 26 win/total rolls 12.09% rank 81
Aubriana win count 8 win/total rolls 11.11% rank 91
Babsy win count 10 win/total rolls 6.80% rank 106
Beerwitch win count 2 win/total rolls 33.33%
Brystorm win count 8 win/total rolls 6.25% rank 107
Calebe win count 19 win/total rolls 9.69% rank 101
Cellar win count 30 win/total rolls 16.30% rank 34
Cinda win count 2 win/total rolls 10.53%
Cordelone win count 7 win/total rolls 15.22% rank 48
Crane win count 18 win/total rolls 14.40% rank 56
Crystill win count 20 win/total rolls 18.52% rank 16
Daaw win count 15 win/total rolls 16.30% rank 35
Damaddar win count 17 win/total rolls 9.66% rank 102
Damieean win count 23 win/total rolls 30.67% rank 1
Daneldil win count 32 win/total rolls 23.36% rank 8
Daqar win count 17 win/total rolls 13.71% rank 63
Darklion win count 23 win/total rolls 10.95% rank 95
Dasmagi win count 19 win/total rolls 17.43% rank 24
Deedly win count 31 win/total rolls 14.42% rank 55
Donglad win count 14 win/total rolls 13.21% rank 68
Dreico win count 6 win/total rolls 25.00%
Eagles win count 17 win/total rolls 12.32% rank 73
Ebeb win count 22 win/total rolls 12.29% rank 76
Efton win count 33 win/total rolls 17.93% rank 21
Elinusn win count 23 win/total rolls 15.97% rank 39
Elumar win count 13 win/total rolls 11.21% rank 89
Felicianna win count 20 win/total rolls 25.00% rank 3
Forgetful win count 4 win/total rolls 14.81%
Fradie win count 14 win/total rolls 18.18% rank 20
Freakbabydoll win count 10 win/total rolls 16.95% rank 27
Fyrmn win count 4 win/total rolls 11.43% rank 86
Gaerwind win count 12 win/total rolls 11.43% rank 87
Gaggrol win count 24 win/total rolls 18.46% rank 17
Galamann win count 15 win/total rolls 12.30% rank 75
Galeon win count 9 win/total rolls 10.23% rank 98
Gindaas win count 18 win/total rolls 11.46% rank 85
Gokujin win count 17 win/total rolls 12.32% rank 74
Goodytoshoes win count 21 win/total rolls 21.88% rank 9
Gringo win count 14 win/total rolls 14.43% rank 54
Hamilkar win count 23 win/total rolls 19.66% rank 13
Huge win count 13 win/total rolls 7.98% rank 105
Izzn win count 18 win/total rolls 15.79% rank 40
Jaaimi win count 11 win/total rolls 18.33% rank 19
Jaerlyn win count 13 win/total rolls 8.28% rank 103
Jeldar win count 15 win/total rolls 13.39% rank 66
Jiniane win count 26 win/total rolls 16.35% rank 33
Johpaul win count 6 win/total rolls 12.24% rank 78
Kaeamien win count 7 win/total rolls 14.89% rank 51
Kaneldar win count 12 win/total rolls 13.95% rank 59
Kethor win count 19 win/total rolls 13.29% rank 67
Khurggan win count 19 win/total rolls 16.67% rank 30
Kittyara win count 17 win/total rolls 25.00% rank 4
Kivanarri win count 15 win/total rolls 20.00% rank 10
Kotter win count 7 win/total rolls 12.28% rank 77
Koutarou win count 22 win/total rolls 13.84% rank 60
Krunchi win count 31 win/total rolls 16.58% rank 31
Ktasi win count 19 win/total rolls 23.75% rank 7
Leanya win count 21 win/total rolls 14.00% rank 57
Leninie win count 10 win/total rolls 16.95% rank 28
Luthair win count 26 win/total rolls 12.15% rank 80
Lyssabeth win count 20 win/total rolls 11.36% rank 88
Lytol win count 26 win/total rolls 13.47% rank 65
Madadar win count 6 win/total rolls 11.11% rank 92
Mandi win count 15 win/total rolls 24.19% rank 6
Marcellox win count 28 win/total rolls 18.42% rank 18
Matthius win count 1 win/total rolls 8.33%
Mezzlar win count 50 win/total rolls 15.48% rank 45
Micaiah win count 15 win/total rolls 13.64% rank 64
Momaviolet win count 29 win/total rolls 16.20% rank 36
Morbous win count 43 win/total rolls 14.68% rank 52
Nevus win count 29 win/total rolls 10.43% rank 97
Pisaster win count 33 win/total rolls 17.55% rank 23
Precocious win count 11 win/total rolls 13.75% rank 62
Qaidya win count 32 win/total rolls 15.09% rank 49
Rago win count 37 win/total rolls 15.68% rank 43
Railmen win count 17 win/total rolls 15.74% rank 42
Razzull win count 1 win/total rolls 2.56% rank 109
Ribbitribbit win count 21 win/total rolls 16.03% rank 38
Rodana win count 4 win/total rolls 9.76% rank 100
Rukus win count 10 win/total rolls 25.00% rank 5
Sanelyene win count 28 win/total rolls 15.05% rank 50
Sarellen win count 36 win/total rolls 12.16% rank 79
Sarrenna win count 13 win/total rolls 13.00% rank 69
Seratta win count 16 win/total rolls 19.75% rank 11
Serogy win count 25 win/total rolls 11.74% rank 83
Shartie win count 3 win/total rolls 6.12% rank 108
Shayden win count 23 win/total rolls 17.83% rank 22
Silver win count 13 win/total rolls 15.29% rank 46
Sissee win count 24 win/total rolls 12.57% rank 71
Sliggoth win count 25 win/total rolls 17.01% rank 26
Sollas win count 27 win/total rolls 11.02% rank 93
Somen win count 14 win/total rolls 15.56% rank 44
Stomponyourface win count 25 win/total rolls 19.08% rank 14
Stumblelord win count 13 win/total rolls 14.44% rank 53
Sued win count 12 win/total rolls 8.28% rank 104
Sunkori win count 9 win/total rolls 10.98% rank 94
Talsheyar win count 4 win/total rolls 10.53% rank 96
Tjay win count 20 win/total rolls 11.83% rank 82
Trainmonster win count 11 win/total rolls 12.94% rank 70
Trilo win count 26 win/total rolls 16.77% rank 29
Valspar win count 17 win/total rolls 16.04% rank 37
Varlon win count 8 win/total rolls 18.60% rank 15
Victorhealer win count 19 win/total rolls 11.18% rank 90
Waltor win count 1 win/total rolls 12.50%
Wanluan win count 21 win/total rolls 15.79% rank 41
Wirtt win count 7 win/total rolls 35.00%
Wishfull win count 3 win/total rolls 11.11%
Xslia win count 24 win/total rolls 12.37% rank 72
Xukanik win count 9 win/total rolls 30.00% rank 2
Yachtor win count 28 win/total rolls 16.37% rank 32
Yllaena win count 40 win/total rolls 11.70% rank 84
Zephur win count 22 win/total rolls 9.82% rank 99
Zielo win count 16 win/total rolls 15.24% rank 47
Zorais win count 74 win/total rolls 17.01% rank 25

Note: The odds of wining go up or down depending on how many were rolling. These results do not consider the odds per win (that math would be more complicated than I want to deal with)

Someone who regularly rolls on spells where there is much competition will have a lower %. Someone who avoids rolling on spells will have a higher %. (Statistics suck!)

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Re: Hot Dice!

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Yllaena win count 40 win/total rolls 11.70% rank 84


Again looks to me like she is a LONG way from best rolls :)
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Re: Hot Dice!

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dama doesnt win much because he doesnt need items to be the best

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Re: Hot Dice!

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ok im confused cause it says i won more then i rolled how does that work ?

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Re: Hot Dice!

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Aanomine wrote:ok im confused cause it says i won more then i rolled how does that work ?

It say syou won 25 times or 19.69% of the time. This ranked you 12th as a winning percentage.

In a previous post it said you rolled 127 times. So you won 25 out of 127 times.

Oh and even winning percent is not a good way (I don't know of a good way to test this).

It is harder to win a random for a spell at 1 dkp, then for a BP at 400 DKP because less people are rolling on the BP. This current methodology does not include that in winning percentage. Thus we would see people who consider themselves unlucky and thus bid up items to limit the competition appear to be luckier since there was less competition.

My personal guess is the percentage of rolls over 30k is probably the best way of calling someone lukcy, thuogh it is POSSIBLE to loose with a 30k+ roll. My best roll ever was a 31900 or so... For an alt... right after I won (Korafax BP) a main logged on and it was given to the main. My dice were traumatized and have been horrid ever since.
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Re: Hot Dice!

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I did not repeat the information in the second list (it gets messy). The first list has the total counted rolls, the second list has the counted wins.

Aanomine - counted rolls = 127
Aanomine win count 25 win/total rolls 19.69%

25/127 = 19.69%

Like eagles said, it does not consider the probability of a win. I do have the probability for each roll, but I do not know how to compile all the information.

If you win a roll with 1 in 14 odds, and lose a roll with 1 in 3 odds, how do you figure win / lose percentage weighted by odds? /boggle.

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Re: Hot Dice!

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zorais wrote:If you win a roll with 1 in 14 odds, and lose a roll with 1 in 3 odds, how do you figure win / lose percentage weighted by odds? /boggle.


I'd actually need to know how to collate multiple wins / loses. Like a win with 1/4 odds, a win with 1/14 odds, a loss with 1/2 odds and a loss with 1/31 odds

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Re: Hot Dice!

Post by Damaddar »

This is just an idea, not sure if it would work, but once you get the odds, you could just keep track of who makes the most "luck points" similar to betting on horse races. If you were a 3 to 1 favorite, that means you win 75% of the time, so The theoretical expected value would be 3/4*(number of rolls as a 3 to 1 favorite). I think the odd payouts are set so you are paid a value so you break even in the long run, so you would get paid 1 1/3 for every 1 point you bet. Comparing theoretical to actual should work, whoever has the highest amount of points would be luckiest. an actual value of 1 would be average, less than 1 would be unlucky, and >1 lucky. If you manage to win with an 8k roll against 10 people, you will get a lot of points, representing a lucky win. If you lose 31999 to 32000 against 1 person, you would still lose the same amount, -1, but the other person would gain a ton. I think this should work, but like stated before, sample size is awfully small to start with, and everybody has a different amount of rolls.


the probability that you have the winning roll x against n competitors should be:

for n>1, 0<=x<=32000,

P= ((x+1)/32001)*(x/32001)^(n-1) , (if you roll a zero, the best you can do is tie, so it is impossible to win. )

odds are P/(1-P)

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